Arizona: G.i.

November 24, 2009 - 10:07 pm
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Any private school teachers or adminstrators reading this?

by David Safier More on the survey results used for the G.I. civics study (No, I'm not obsessed, just very interested). Here's a way to get closer to finding out whether Strategic Vision LLC actually completed the survey for G.I....

November 24, 2009 - 05:29 pm
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Any private school teachers or adminstrators reading this?

by David Safier

More on the survey results used for the G.I. civics study (No, I'm not obsessed, just very interested). Here's a way to get closer to finding out whether Strategic Vision LLC actually completed the survey for G.I. and didn't just make up the results.

It can be worth a $25 gift card for 3 lucky students.

Alex Molnar, who is also looking into this (see the post below), came up with an interesting figure. He said the survey would have polled about 1 in every 10 private high school students in the state. That would mean, finding some students who recall taking the telephone survey, if the survey was actually conducted, should be fairly easy.

November 24, 2009 - 04:54 pm
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More on civics survey data

by David Safier

I don't know if Matthew Ladner is working from his end to discover whether or not the public school/private school survey he commissioned from Strategic Vision LLC was legit or fraudulent. But I have to say, he's been very forthcoming with documentation. I asked him if he would give me the raw data connected with the survey, and he sent it to me.

I forwarded it on to Alex Molnar, an assistant prof at Bellarmine University in Kentucky who teaches statistics and is looking into this as well. Molnar found no smoking gun. The raw data agreed with the data in the study.

November 23, 2009 - 09:28 am
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Matthew Ladner responds

by David Safier

Matthew Ladner commented on the concerns I have expressed, along with others, about the survey Strategic Vision LLC was paid to conduct for G.I. Here are his comments,

David-

I believed you linked to a post last week where I explained that I am awaiting further evidence from Strategic Vision. I'll make a few additional comments here.

If this survey were a fraud, it was an elaborate fraud indeed as from the start SV provided me with not only cross-tabs but also with raw data. It wouldn't be impossible for someone to sit around and type in the thousands of records it would take to produce such a file, but it would be very strange to do so.

November 22, 2009 - 12:29 pm
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No comments from Goldwater about Civics survey

by David Safier

This is just me being curious. I rarely write about the Goldwater Institute, and especially about Matthew Ladner's work, without getting a fairly prompt response in the Comments. Recently I've been tag-teaming with others all over the country to question the accuracy of Ladner's Civics study, as well as 2 others he put together comparing public and private schools. They were all based on the same survey by the same company, Strategic Vision LLC, and evidence points to the conclusion that the results were faked.

G.I. may have been the victim here, but the results went out as emails and press releases sent all over the country, so if they're a sham, the rest of us are victims of bad information as well.

November 20, 2009 - 11:06 pm
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More on the (probably) faked Civics survey done for G.I.

by David Safier A few days ago, I posted about problems with the survey Goldwater Institute's Matthew Ladner used for his study about how little high school students know about Civics. It seems the company that conducted the survey, Strategic...

November 16, 2009 - 07:21 pm
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Will Goldwater Institute have to eat crow on this one?

by David Safier

In case you missed it yesterday (between Blue Meanie's posts and mine, things move down the page pretty quickly), I wrote about the possibility that the survey Matthew Ladner based three public/private school comparisons on was totally fabricated by Strategic Vision LLC, the company paid to do the survey.

Suspicions about the integrity of Strategic Vision can be found on lots of sites -- the end of the earlier post has a long list of links. Among other problems, the addresses listed as the firm's offices around the country are UPS stores. They have since been removed from the company's website.

November 15, 2009 - 07:56 pm
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Fooled Gold? Another look at the G.I. Civics Test

by David Safier

As you know if you've been reading this blog, I've had several bones to pick with the Goldwater Institute's studies comparing public and private school students in their knowledge of civics, tolerance of others and feelings about the schools they attend. (My criticism of the Civics study is here, and the criticism of the other two are combined in this post.) But here's one objection that never occurred to me until two faithful readers emailed me material that puts the polls themselves into question. (Hat tip to todd and to Eli Blake.)

It's possible the polling company, Strategic Vision LLC, simply made up the numbers in the surveys it gave to Matthew Ladner at G.

November 3, 2009 - 05:47 pm
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Election day diversion: Melvin, "loser-tarians" and nukes

by David Safier

If you haven't voted yet, VOTE! And if friends haven't voted, drag them to the polls.

Meanwhile, on a topic more suitable to the 2010 election a year from now:

Cap'n Al Melvin attended a town hall in Oro Valley October 30, sponsored by Americans for Prosperity and the Goldwater Institute. He praised the sponsors' efforts to rein in state budget spending, then spoke about why things are in the legislative mess they are today. It's because in the state senate, two Republicans are far left, and two others are "loser-tarians." Apparently he got a big laugh from some members of the audience for his little word play.

October 25, 2009 - 04:40 pm
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In the interest of fairness (even [especially] to the Goldwater Institute)

by David Safier

I never pretend to be objective, but I try my best to be fair. I go after G.I. regularly -- fairly, I believe -- but when a suspicion turns out to be  wrong, I should say something. Which is what I'm doing here.

Matthew Ladner put together three policy briefs comparing public and private school students. I think the methodology used on the studies is bad, as I've written in earlier posts, but I suspected the surveys were inadequate to even reach the shaky conclusions Ladner reached. Ladner was good enough to send me the original surveys, and the raw data looks fine, even if the conclusions are still questionable.