Arizona: Ladner

November 24, 2009 - 05:29 pm
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Any private school teachers or adminstrators reading this?

by David Safier

More on the survey results used for the G.I. civics study (No, I'm not obsessed, just very interested). Here's a way to get closer to finding out whether Strategic Vision LLC actually completed the survey for G.I. and didn't just make up the results.

It can be worth a $25 gift card for 3 lucky students.

Alex Molnar, who is also looking into this (see the post below), came up with an interesting figure. He said the survey would have polled about 1 in every 10 private high school students in the state. That would mean, finding some students who recall taking the telephone survey, if the survey was actually conducted, should be fairly easy.

November 23, 2009 - 09:28 am
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Matthew Ladner responds

by David Safier

Matthew Ladner commented on the concerns I have expressed, along with others, about the survey Strategic Vision LLC was paid to conduct for G.I. Here are his comments,

David-

I believed you linked to a post last week where I explained that I am awaiting further evidence from Strategic Vision. I'll make a few additional comments here.

If this survey were a fraud, it was an elaborate fraud indeed as from the start SV provided me with not only cross-tabs but also with raw data. It wouldn't be impossible for someone to sit around and type in the thousands of records it would take to produce such a file, but it would be very strange to do so.

November 22, 2009 - 12:29 pm
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No comments from Goldwater about Civics survey

by David Safier

This is just me being curious. I rarely write about the Goldwater Institute, and especially about Matthew Ladner's work, without getting a fairly prompt response in the Comments. Recently I've been tag-teaming with others all over the country to question the accuracy of Ladner's Civics study, as well as 2 others he put together comparing public and private schools. They were all based on the same survey by the same company, Strategic Vision LLC, and evidence points to the conclusion that the results were faked.

G.I. may have been the victim here, but the results went out as emails and press releases sent all over the country, so if they're a sham, the rest of us are victims of bad information as well.

November 16, 2009 - 07:21 pm
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Will Goldwater Institute have to eat crow on this one?

by David Safier

In case you missed it yesterday (between Blue Meanie's posts and mine, things move down the page pretty quickly), I wrote about the possibility that the survey Matthew Ladner based three public/private school comparisons on was totally fabricated by Strategic Vision LLC, the company paid to do the survey.

Suspicions about the integrity of Strategic Vision can be found on lots of sites -- the end of the earlier post has a long list of links. Among other problems, the addresses listed as the firm's offices around the country are UPS stores. They have since been removed from the company's website.

November 15, 2009 - 07:56 pm
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Fooled Gold? Another look at the G.I. Civics Test

by David Safier

As you know if you've been reading this blog, I've had several bones to pick with the Goldwater Institute's studies comparing public and private school students in their knowledge of civics, tolerance of others and feelings about the schools they attend. (My criticism of the Civics study is here, and the criticism of the other two are combined in this post.) But here's one objection that never occurred to me until two faithful readers emailed me material that puts the polls themselves into question. (Hat tip to todd and to Eli Blake.)

It's possible the polling company, Strategic Vision LLC, simply made up the numbers in the surveys it gave to Matthew Ladner at G.

October 25, 2009 - 04:40 pm
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In the interest of fairness (even [especially] to the Goldwater Institute)

by David Safier

I never pretend to be objective, but I try my best to be fair. I go after G.I. regularly -- fairly, I believe -- but when a suspicion turns out to be  wrong, I should say something. Which is what I'm doing here.

Matthew Ladner put together three policy briefs comparing public and private school students. I think the methodology used on the studies is bad, as I've written in earlier posts, but I suspected the surveys were inadequate to even reach the shaky conclusions Ladner reached. Ladner was good enough to send me the original surveys, and the raw data looks fine, even if the conclusions are still questionable.

October 19, 2009 - 02:22 pm
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Fool's Gold: Republic's private school student numbers wrong

by David Safier

I was going to let Matthew Ladner's Monday morning G.I. email slide. It looked pretty reasonable to me at first glance.

Then someone told me to take a closer look, and showed me where to look. Oops. Foolish me.

Ladner questions a Republic article's figure for the number of private school students in Arizona in an article which said the state loses money on tuition tax credit scholarships. Here's the passage where he questions the numbers.

For starters, there are varying estimates of private school attendance in Arizona. Republic reporter Robert Hansen's estimation technique is highly dependent on this. The Arizona Private School Directory lists more than 3,000 more private school students than the National Center for Education statistics Hansen used in his research.

October 14, 2009 - 01:14 pm
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Another tax credit argument bites the dust

by David Safier

Tuition tax credits save the state money? So its proponents argue. They subtract the average tax credit scholarship from the cost of educating a student at public school and say the result is the saving per student.

They conveniently leave out the fact that the scholarships go to many students who would attend private school regardless. A pesky little detail.

The Republic, which has been going after the tuition tax credit story with gusto lately, concluded, as it says in the head, Tuition tax credits drain state money. I won't go through the math, which is on the sidebar, but the Republic makes the most generous possible assumptions, and the tuition tax credits come out pretty much as a financial wash.

October 11, 2009 - 05:25 pm
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G.I. earns one gold earring

by David Safier

This is a damning-with-faint-praise segment of my regular Fool's Gold series looking at the inaccuracies the Goldwater Institute trades in. This time, the information isn't incorrect. It's just half of the story. So one gold earring out of two seems appropriate. Worn pirate-like. Also appropriate.

Last week Matthew Ladner wrote one of G.I.'s daily emails. The subject was a study out of Stanford that concluded New York's charter schools outperformed the public schools, controlling for the student populations. It looks to be about as good a study as you're going to find, and its results appear to be accurate. I

October 1, 2009 - 09:25 pm
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Is this all they've got?

by David Safier

So. The Goldwater Institute brings Jeb Bush out to talk to members of the legislature's out-of-session education committees and, I suppose, anyone else who wants to listen. Friend of the blog Matthew Ladner is good buds with Jeb. Ladner wrote a book about the miracle of Florida education, and Jeb Bush wrote the preface. Al Melvin, among other Rs, sing the praises of Florida's education miracle, though I don't think Cap'n Al has a clue what he's talking about.

Ready for a big, carefully orchestrated dog and pony show to pump up Rs to do . . . I don't know .